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The trade window shows the lower trade limit of the two players involved.

The Trade limit is a mechanism in the trade system that prevents players from making trades considered to be too "unbalanced", that is, where one of the two players involved in the trade is giving much more than they are receiving. Jagex introduced it as part of measures to curb real world trading. As a side benefit, the trade limit also discourages and mostly eliminates item scamming and "hacking" other players' accounts.

For free players, the imbalance can be up to 10,000 coins every 15 minutes; for members, the limit increases with quest points up to a maximum of 60,000 coins every 15 minutes. This limit also affects stakes made when duelling, any charge made for lending items, and the Rat Pits.

Jagex's intention to implement the limit was announced in the Trade and Drop Changes update on 10 December 2007[1], as part of several other updates, to allow players to prepare for the limit. In fact, the trade limit was already applied to new players who signed up after 10 December 2007, as well as various other "high risk" players. The limit was instituted for all players in the Unbalanced Trade Removal update on 2 January 2008[2].

On 13 April 2009, Andrew announced on the forums that they are planning to increase the trade limit to "long term friends," friends who have been on the player's friend list for at least a month. The limit will double when trading with friends.

On 1 February 2010, the trade limit was updated again. Friends with each other's names on the friends list for over 1 month will have their trade limit doubled when trading with each other, tripled if over 2 months, and quadrupled if over 3 months.

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Limit amounts

As initially planned, the trade cap would have been 3,000 coins for all players. After considering suggestions from players, Jagex decided to increase this limit, depending on quest points. Below is a table with trade limits for given numbers of quest points, as provided by Jagex[3].

Quest points No-Friend Margin 1 Month Friend 2 Months Friend 3 Months Friend
0 to 10 5,000 10,000 15,000 20,000
34 10,076 20,152 30,228 40,304
75 18,750 37,500 56,250 75,000
150 34,615 69,230 103,845 138,460
225 50,480 100,960 151,440 201,920
270 60,000 120,000 180,000 240,000
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Calculating trade limits

The formulae below can be used to calculate trade limits:

Range Formula
10 < QP ≤ 33 round(QP*170+3300)
34 < QP ≤ 75 round(QP*(213+17/41)+(2743+9/10))
75 < QP ≤ 225 round(QP*(211+8/15)+2885)
225 < QP ≤ 270 round(QP*(211+5/9)+2880)

Criticisms

In June 2008, Mod Stevew stated he did not "know for sure" whether the trade limit would remain.

The announcement of the limit resulted in much criticism from players, and was a factor in the well-known Pay to Pk Riot (though that was primarily in protest at the changes to the Wilderness, which coincided with the trade limit announcement). Many players disliked the update, as it prevents larger gifts from being given to others, and reduces the amount of help that can be provided to fellow players. On 3 January 2008, shortly after the implementation of the limit, the Unbalanced Trade Riot occurred as a result.

In addition, some players disliked the fact that quest points were the determining factor in the trade cap, as some experienced pures don't meet the requirement. Also, some free players disliked that the trade cap was widely varied between free and member accounts. It would seem that Jagex made an inconvenience to free players instead of an incentive for getting a member account.

On 25 June 2008, Mod Stevew was on Arcanists 9, speaking about the trade limit. One player asked him about it, and Mod Stevew did not know whether or not it would be removed.

Workarounds

Some players have also used the Party Room, in very non-busy worlds and having totals of just enough value (<50,000 GP) that it is not advertised throughout RuneScape. However, this is less effective now as the Party Room can only be used on specific worlds.

A recent method is to look for items that have a large discrepancy between the Grand Exchange value and the player market value. For example, various items have a relatively high Grand Exchange value compared to their street value. Players often use these items to "balance" a trade. This practice is known as junk trading, and the junk is sometimes called "trade fodder."

Trivia

  • When the trade limit was implemented for all players, a bug prevented it from working properly. Some players used this to scam others by asking them to try trading several million and saying that the limit was in place.
  • The trade limit was originally 3k for free players and members, this was then changed to 5k for members and non members, this was then changed to 30k for members and 5k for non member, finally when the While Guthix Sleeps quest was released the trade limits were 10k for non members and 60k for members. After the February 1 update, the trade limit was increased to 40k for non-members and 240k for members, but the traders have to have been friends for at least three months.
  • There is a glitch that sometimes when you trade and lower your trade limit for the hour , if you go to price check it will say that it is more than it actually is.
  • Sometimes, a glitch may occur where the trade limit is -1. The trade limit can then be bypassed. This glitch has not been fixed by Jagex.
  • Sometimes, another glitch may occur after the max trade limit has been given away. The trade limit for the unglitched player will be the maximum trade limit of the lower of the two players' trade limits. The trade limit for the glitched player is -3 coins. In this event, no trade may occur.
    Glitched -3 coin trade limit

References

  1. ^ "Trade and Drop Changes", RuneScape news archives, 2007-12-10
  2. ^ "Unbalanced Trade Removal", RuneScape news archives, 2008-01-02
  3. ^ "Controls - Trading", RuneScape Game Guide As of 30 September 2008, the trade limits were increased.

This article uses material from the "Trade limit" article on the Runescape wiki at Wikia and is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike License.

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