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Ol' Painless
Attack statistics
dmg/attack: 30
DPS: 33.75
attacks/sec: 1.125
# of projectiles: 1
spread: 0
crit dmg: 30
crit chance: x 1
ammo type: .32 caliber
ammo per shot: 1
ammo capacity: 5
shots/reload: 5
skill: Small Guns
AP: 23
item HP: 500
repair: .32 Hunting Rifles
weight: 6
value: 250
quests: Election Day
You Gotta Shoot 'Em in the Head
base id: 00066C76

Ol' Painless is a slightly more powerful .32 Hunting Rifle.



Ol' Painless does more damage per shot, has a faster rate of fire and reloads faster than the regular Hunting Rifle, and also has a good durability and can be repaired with ordinary Hunting Rifles. Ol' Painless is one of the few weapons with 0 spread, meaning at 100 small guns skill non-VATS shots go exactly where you aim them.

Thanks to its common ammo type, solid damage, and decent rate of fire; Ol' Painless is a very practical multi-purpose gun, and is one of the best rifles in the game.


  • In an unpickable safe in The Republic of Dave Capitol Building. Dave's Special Key required to open the safe.
    • You can get the key by pickpocketing Dave.
    • You can also get the safe open by successfully electing another member of the family. If Bob is elected he says he needs to throw out Dave's junk. If Rosie is elected, she gives you Dave's items as your "reward" for helping her. Even so taking from the safe is still considered stealing (likely a bug). If you take Ol' Painless from the safe and then speak to someone from the town, it is possible they will take it from you. If this occurs the only way to get it back is through more negative karma of either pickpocketing it or killing them and looting it.
    • You can obtain the key if you have the "You Gotta Shoot 'Em in the Head" quest as well. Through speech checks, Dave gives you his keys as an item to show Mister Crowley that he is dead, when in fact he is alive. This key can be used to unlock his safe containing Ol' Painless. To avoid getting caught stealing, either use a stealth boy or tell everyone in town to vote in order to make him move out of the room to check the ballot box. you could just stand there and wait for everyone to leave waiting an hour if necessary
  • If you choose to kill Dave, you will be attacked by both of his wives (as he's a polygamist). Also note that it is possible that the other residents of the Republic of Dave may be unaware of your killing Dave and his wives, and thus letting you escape the Karma loss. Another option is to declare war on the Republic and everyone will turn hostile so you can kill them with no Karma loss.


  • It is possible to make it impossible to obtain, so be careful. How someone unfortunately did it: Go to the Republic of Dave, ask everyone to vote, and then convince Rosie and Bob to run for office. Well since everyone already voted it didn't matter and when he opens the ballot box he wins. Also, if one of the voters dies before you tell them to vote, Dave won't register their death and won't continue without the dead voters vote. Also if you did the You Gotta Shoot 'Em in the Head quest you can't pickpocket the key.
  • Even though Dave claims he lost his Hunting Rifle stalking Mirelurks, Ol' Painless is located right in his safe next to his chair.
  • If you use the console to get it the code:00066c76 is for the safe which it is inside, and not the weapon. If you use the code to get the safe, you will also find some caps (around 50+-) and some other stuff.
  • If you want to make the rifle player owned get a hostile NPC to pick it up and then kill them and loot it. Or by simply selling it and immediately purchasing it.

Behind the scenes

In the movie Old Yeller, Travis must do the merciful thing and shoot his now-rabid dog with a hunting rifle named "Ol' Painless."


  • Even when given permission to raid Dave's Safe, it will still be marked "red" as private property. Therefore if you drop Ol' Painless and move the cross hair over it, the cross hair is red and "steal" is shown.
  • This weapon has been known to randomly disappear from your storage in your house/suite upon downloading Broken Steel (Confirmed Xbox 360/PS3).
  • This weapon may disappear from your inventory or storage in your house/suite for no reason. (Confirmed Xbox 360/PS3)
  • If Pronto, Smiling Jack, Knick Knack, or Moira catch you pick pocketing them, they will take Ol' Painless saying you stole it, then they will have it for sale in their store. (Confirmed PS3)



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